IS Winter Perkins, DBA
designsbywinter
a THIEF?

This is as clear a definition as I have ever found of what is Copyright infringement!

(Clarification of copyright infringement (Credit excerpt deviantart.com)

The bottom line is: Just about anything that is on any website, on the web, on TV, on CD's, on DVD's, in books & in magazines is probably copyrighted by someone.

Copyright can be a confusing territory for many people. In many cases the natural confusion over the sometimes varied circumstances surrounding copyright will lead people to rely upon rumor or myth more often than the actual legal facts which naturally confuses the matter even more.

In this document we will attempt to eliminate some of the confusion and counter many of the myths surrounding copyright. Understand that the following form is provided for informational purposes only and is intended to be used as a guide only. The availability of this document should not be construed as rendering legal or other professional advice, and this document is not a substitute for the advice of an attorney. If you require legal advice, you should seek the services of a qualified attorney.


What is Copyright Infringement?

To simplify this question, copyright infringement occurs when you do certain things with a creative work which someone else produced without first getting the proper permission.

Some examples of copyright infringement (this is only a partial listing) can include:

  • Placing a photograph or creative work online without proper permission.
  • Using a creative work commercially.
  • Adapting a creative work of one medium to another, such as making a book into a movie or a photograph into a painting.
  • Modifying or editing a creative work without proper permission.

How Can I Avoid Infringing on Someone's Copyright?

The best way to avoid infringing on the rights of another creative person is to use your skill, talent and imagination to create your own completely original work. When we use the word 'original' we don't mean that you must come up with an idea which hasn't been used before, when used in copyright matters "original" means that you created your work without referencing or deliberately copying anyone else's work during the process.

Ensure that all parts of your work, both visual and audio, are your own original creations. If you have used materials which are owned by other people or companies make certain that you have obtained proper permission or licensing for the use before you place your work online.


What Sort of Things are Copyrighted?

The easy answer to this question is that just about any creative work you might find should be considered to be copyrighted by default.

A work is not required to have a copyright statement printed on it or near it in order to be considered copyrighted so do not assume that the work is unprotected simply because you cannot see a notice written anywhere.

Also do not confuse the fact that a work is publicly available with the idea that it is public domain or free for use. Being easy to find on the internet does not affect a work's copyrighted status.


Some Cautions

  • In most cases it does not matter how much of the material you have used. Whether it's a single frame, a few moments of audio, a short clip of video or any other sampling it's still considered to be copyrighted and you still require the owner's permission for use.
  • It doesn't matter how you obtained the material, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
  • It doesn't matter whether or not you've credited the proper owner, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
  • It doesn't matter if you are not selling it or making a profit, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
  • It doesn't matter if you can find other people using things without permission, it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.
  • It doesn't matter if you've edited it a little bit or made a few alterations, if it's recognizable it's still considered copyrighted and you still need permission.

  • (End Clarification of copyright infringement (Credit excerpt deviantart.com))

    This clearly defines Ms. Winter Perkins as a thief
    Winter Perkins is responsible for her actions, whether claiming ignorance, or not
    Liable for all damages, regardless of intent, the present owner
    or claims she just did not realize it was wrong

    Nothing more can be said that will change the fact Ms. Winter Perkins is a Thief
    (I suggest Ms. Winter Perkins has previously proven this fact as truth many times over before this incident)
    Nor the fact she refuses to show any integrity or accept her responsibility to resolve her "Innocent Mistake"

    In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel)
    is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual,
    that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

July 1st Fireworks or just another dud?

Whether winter perkins is "Nice" and I am "Hated" is irrelevant!

Whether there is animosity between us, or not, is irrelevant!

How the illegal usage/theft of copyrighted images has been exposed, and by whom, is irrelevant!

I personally agree!
What has happened to the face of twisted-clickers.net is a shame!

It is INTENTIONALLY way over the top!

Actions uncalled for is something many can lay claim to in this situation it would appear!

Would anyone/everyone be justified to be completely enraged that this website purchased, is seriously devalued by the loss of what
was a very high quality image?

The facts are, for quite some time, there has been animosity between the two main players, directly relating to complaints, echoed
by others, regarding operating/acquiring designsbywinter websites, in the full range of possible complaints.
Truth can be harsh, unpleasant to hear, and causes such feelings of animosity!

It was said, by more than one individual, including myself, having personally owned more than one "designsbywinter" program, that
editing the pages for simple tasks, set things, not even worked on, all "Wonky", to borrow the term I believe was used at the time
by another individual.

There has been evidence to show that some designs done by Ms. Perkins, are extremely high resource demanding, which pound servers
unmercifully!
The inquiries as to why, what solution there could be, and all accusations, in general were ignored, with all responsibility that
may rest with designsbywinter vehemently denied by Ms. Perkins!

Inappropriate mismanagement of previously owned websites has publicly/privately been alleged, which appears to fit within the
definition of, at the least, "debt dumping", if not easily defined as Ms. Perkins is guilty of being a flat out "runner po"!

There appear to be many who would agree with this assessment of Ms. Perkins past actions, and some whom would not!

Presently?
Complaints have expanded to include the mis-use/mis-appropriation of images, created/owned/copyrighted, by others without permission,
nor compensation by Ms. Perkins.

The ugly raw word for this is, "Theft"!

There was a statement released that admitted fault, a payment was made, and claims of sincere remorse were expressed!

This was accompanied by the plea to forgive an "Innocent Mistake", made by a green and unknowing fledgling designer!

The intelligent response to this admition of wrong doing, one would think, would be that the individual, Ms. Perkins, whom has
publicly admitted wrong doing, would sincerely work to resolve the dispute!
Without threats/anger because Ms. Perkins has been caught doing something she should not have done!

There are a number of individuals, including myself, neither Ms. Perkins, nor Ms. Huber, have researched/inquired about, to my
knowledge.
Nor does anyone responsible appear to have any intention to compensate anyone, for an act Ms. Perkins has publicly admitted, has occurred,
which Ms. Perkins, and by association, Ms. Huber, are responsible for.

It appears that the message sent by the actions taken, since the admitting of guilt made by Ms. Perkins, by Ms. Perkins and her associate,
Mandy Huber, is that it is not what the error is, but whom it harms, that will determine if responsibility will be accepted and
situations resolved fairly?


Winter Perkins and Mandy Huber
AKA/DBA
DesignsbyWinter
seamlesswebsolutions
stand behind their work ONLY if they are made to do so?

Is this the type of image/message this business wishes to portray?

Is this how responsible persons accept responsibility?

I will include a small "Snippet",
(With the permission of the receiving individual)
of a conversation related to me by another discussing this situation. which can be taken as what it is.
I will leave it to the sender, and/or Ms. Perkins to validate the accuracy of this "Stance", as she appears to define it!

I will leave it to you, the reader to make your own judgments as to what Ms. Perkins is really expressing!

(Quote)
"icywhite2008: i was sick this past week and not here
icywhite2008: well my stance is this and its not changing so im not sure how much
would be able to be worked out
icywhite2008: i am legally obligated to pay the artist for usage which i did, i am
not obligated by law to compensate bob in any way because he has not paid me monies
for any services, if he had purchased the design from me i would be required to
replace any design that had to be taken down for legal reasons, as much as i hate bob
if he had sent me a contact in a professional manner saying that the design was
copyrighted and had to be taken down i wouldve helped out of principle, now hes on
his own"
(Unquote)

I only wish to point out that the legal obligation for Ms. Perkins does not end with downstream sales of a stolen item.

The suggestion that the "Professional" approach to this would to have been for me to become Ms. Perkins accomplice in the theft and
cover it up, and how Ms. Perkins perceives the "Principle of this act ...
This I will leave the reader also to define!

Last?
This quote just struck me as very odd and telling, smacking of immaturity and irrationality!
(Quote)
"as much as i hate bob"
(Unquote)

Additionally:
The following is Ms. perkins admition of wrong doing, minus the requested removal of e-mail correspondence, between herself, and the one
individual whom, I will suggest, is no more than salesman/agent, for the rightful owners of the stolen image.
Ms. Perkins claims the paltry payment to Mr. "Big T", of a mere $50, meets all her legal responsibilities regarding her role to
resolve the down-stream results of the admitted to theft.

Initially Posted at the following link which has been removed:
http://www.designsbywinter.info/proof/proof.html

(Quote of Ms.Winter Perkins Admition of theft of the Image AKA "Fairies")

This page is in response to the accusations currently made that I knowingly use a copyrighted piece of work and claimed it as my
own.

This will be my only public response. I will not update this page on a daily or weekly basis. If anyone would like to contact me
personally on this subject feel free to use any of the methods I will list at the end of this document.

This page will be long but not filled with words. I have chosen to keep the screen-shots of my correspondence with the artist of the
image in question full sized so that they will be legible for everyone.

Below is payment Proof:

EDIT
(Screen-shots of correspondence between Ms. Perkins and Image salesman/agent, Mr."Big T" edited here)
END EDIT

I will not take up more of your time repeating what was spoken in the emails about the use of the image. I am actually thankful that
Bob (and his footmen/women) took the time and effort to seek out the origin of this image. Without them (even if out of spite) I
might not have had the opportunity to give credit to the original artist and pay him for usage of such a beautiful piece of work.

I would like to point out that Twisted-Clickers was the 2nd site I designed when I started providing this service almost 2 years
ago, and I have to admit I was not as extremely knowledgeable about copyright laws as I am now. I assumed having been passed this
tube in a Yahoo tagging site that it was able to be used in images. I realize now, of course, that this is not the case and have
been a paid member of many tube sites and stock image sites for well over a year. I do not use images without purchasing them and
have since learned that lesson long before this situation. For those of you who actually thought I was drawing these images that I
create websites and graphics with, I'm not sure what to say. If I was able to create art like that from scratch I don't believe I'd
be providing the service of designing websites, but selling my art much like the people that provide the beautiful images that us
designers (YES 99% of designers use these same resources and design methods) use to create your websites.

I have to say thank you so much to the floods of emails and instant messages that we have received over the past few days of
support, strength and encouragement. You guys are absolutely THE BEST customers and friends that we could ever hope for! You are
what keeps us going on days that we wonder why we stay and fight the good fight when it's abundantly clear we are not wanted in this
industry by our competition. Your success and loyal support are what make this worthwhile for us!

If anyone has questions for me, you can contact me personally below. I will not be posting in forums and advertising this page all
over the place in PTR/PTC sites. I don't feel that is necessary in the least bit. Normally I would ignore things of this nature all
together like we have in the past, but on this occasion, I felt it important to share the story from this side of the table. :)

CONTACT METHODS EDITED/REMOVED HERE
(End quote of Ms.Winter Perkins Admition of theft of the Image AKA "Fairies")

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Update on the situation is no update really

Individuals have come to me expressing Ms. Perkins demands I stop publicizing her theft!
This incident is not good and gives a black-eye to the industry!
Well .... Duh!
The demands are accompanied by threats to sue me!
Ms. Perkins seems to be distressed this incident has been made public!

(It is obvious how that "Arm Twisting" has worked out for Ms. Perkins!)

Compensation has been made to Mr. "Big T", as she has publicized!

Here is a funny, (neither Ha Ha, nor Queer), but shameful/foolish, in my opinion, fact to note!
I received a request to not publish the response from Mr. "Big T"
Which clearly states:
A lawyer was to be informed of the incident, actions will follow, greatly appreciated for my actions, etc ...
I have to tell you I am absolutely feeling the Love and appreciation!

My response appears to have clearly expressed my opinion that the lenience
additional hiding of the facts of the theft, and the reply I received
sends a seriously flawed message to any others who would do similar acts
Additionally it sends the message to other persons who may otherwise become involved
the loud and clear impression
"Why bother to assist anyone in a fight against such incidents?"

I closed with the very sincere wish that this individual get all they deserve
from a world influenced by such actions!

Reply to this was that i had apparently made some personal attack wishing such a thing to occur!

Huh?

"Reap what you sow is a personal attack this week?

It appears people may be extremely over sensitive?

I will abide by those wishes and not publish the correspondence, ... for now anyway!

Additionally, as anyone can see, that request does not appear to extend to Ms. Perkins
it appears as long as the theft is shown in favorable light towards Ms. Perkins
it matters not what is published!

Once again not Funny Ha Ha ............

Only query I have in regard to what appears to be an additional owner of the stolen image?
I wonder if this individual, whom copyrighted colorization of the "EXACT" image Ms. Perkins stole
has been compensated, or even informed, for that matter of the events which have transpired?
Is it possible that another would stumble and fall under the bus due to Ms. Perkins actions?
I suppose I will not know this until I personally inquire to that Gentleman!
It appears that unless I take first step to do so
Ms. Perkins will not seek out anyone to remedy the "Innocent Mistake"!

There has been no offer of compensation
I have clearly expressed that if Ms. Perkins is sincere that she make amends
I am open to such a contact

If this has not been clearly expressed it has been now!

This would subsequently put this shameful incident in the rear view mirror for Ms. Perkins, and Associate

I will remove this page!
I will go about the business of re-facing
Twisted-Clickers.net

it appears that threats and avoiding resolution is the plan instead!
Ms. Perkins does not appear remorseful for her damaging actions to anyone I have asked!

So be it!
Everyone knows how I despise and avoid conflict!

AKA - Wench Muffins
Is solely owned by myself for anyone not privy to the behind the scenes details
or have never researched the holdings documents relating to whom exactly owns AKA Wench Muffins Network

Always has been!
Always will be!

Recent behind the scenes drama has prompted me to clearly state this detail of fact!


In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel)
is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual,
that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

***************************************************

Also tweaked the body of yesterdays "rantage" a bit to clarify .... Well?
To clarify I'm friggin Pissed!!
Additionally:
Because Wench Muffins has not personally designed/ researched all the images included on all programs I control
ALL Wench Muffins Network websites, as appropriate, will be going through redesign, in the coming future!
I apologize, in advance, for any inconvenience this may cause
Anyone knowing of any image, on any website, which may be suspicious, may inform Wench Muffins
(or just post the damn information publicly if that is preferred)
Please include links to all related aspects of this information
so I may concentrate on those incidents which infringe on others copyrights ASAP.
Please use the contact option on any Wench muffins program to deliver this information

http://www.wenchmuffins.com/pages/networksites.php

YIM me personally
bgmck3@yahoo.com

Thank You!
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Ms. Winter Perkins says ... ?
(Quote)
"I will not be posting in forums and advertising this page all over the place in PTR/PTC sites.
I don't feel that is necessary in the least bit. Normally I would ignore things of this nature all together
like we have in the past, but on this occasion, I felt it important to share the story from this side of the table"
(Unquote)

Yes Ma'am!
I do believe I too would avoid ALL of those "Question & Answers" places also, if I were you!
Sure seems odd that you would consider this a smart plan of action
With nothing to hide and so much remorse to convey!
What could go wrong?

"We"?
Does that mean you will drag Mandy under the bus with you Ma'am?
Gotta Love a "Good Friend"!

One more thing Ma'am!
Those beautiful banners advertising the website you destroyed and images gone?
You wish that they were only advertised in Paid to land!
I LOVE the way you can put images/banners in siggys' when posting in all those off beat artsy forums!

In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel)
is the communication of a statement that makes a FALSE CLAIM, expressively stated or implied to be factual
that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

http://www.designsbywinter.info/proof/proof.html

Thank You Ma'am!
Or maybe?
You should thank me?
I have a feeling many artists will soon, momentarily, become very interested in your work!
-------------------------------------------------------
Wench Muffins is one of the numerous victims in this situation Ms. Perkins has admitted
she instigated by what she describes as an "Innocent Mistake" made in good faith.

http://www.designsbywinter.info/proof/proof.html

I suggest that the expressions of remorse that. arguably appears genuine,
to be coming from Ms. Perkins is extremely touching

But the truth is?
Those sentiments have not been communicated personally to anyone, Wench Muffins!
Have been communicated by Ms. Perkins, accompanied with angry threats and incrimination!
Accusations that Ms. Perkins is being unfairly and "Spitefully" singled out
are attached to those sentiments she, and some others, express!

Ms. Perkins remorseful attitude seems contrived, to say the least!
The only part, of any of it, that seems genuine, to me, is her hatred towards myself, for outing her!

Her anger towards anyone who does not immediately forgive her for the theft!
Anyone not accepting that "ignorance of the rules" hog-wash she's spreading around as fast as she can ...
Well ... ?
It seems pretty clear what not believing her will get you as a reward!
I will say I believe Ms. Perkins is truly sorry she got caught!
But!
Not in that good way she is muttering in that phony "Boo Hoo" act she has going on!
If she was sincere?
Would all victims not have been immediately contacted to resolve this issue?

Most of all?
"I'm so sorry and I'll never do it again!"

What exactly has any of this repaired, or remedied for Wench Muffins?
twisted-clickers.net

There are a few glaring inconsistencies and "Fudging" of the truth that could be pointed out!

(ie ... Twisted-Clickers went up in March, well shy of 2 years, which is one of many points "stretched" a bit?

Call me a bastard too for pointing out the statement "sold the site for around $50" ... ?
(CC Script program? ... Really? ... I don't recall prices being in the toilet, as they are now, last year!)

Anyone else not quite buying the hazy memory of one of the first and famous "Starting Out" sales someone has?
I clearly recall the details on all early sales/purchases/etc ... which everything has been built on!
ect ... ect ... so on!)

Additionally ...
I personally have some questions that immediately come to mind!

For instance?

If Ms. Perkins is so "Extremely" knowledgeable of copyright legalities ... ?
Why, exactly does the image produced, sold ,,, (?)
The kind gesture to replace the controversial NON-sale of the Twisted Clickers logo
(see below)
Why does it have its copyright obviously removed?

(Quote)
BaroqueXena
"Winter showed me the graphic with no background, I was the one who wanted the rest added."
(Unquote)

if you believe Jane ...
(Which I personally, grudgingly, F%$@# I hate to, will, Looooong before I believe Ms. Perkins)
Winter removed the copyright IN ADVANCE!
NOT by request!
Another victim tossed under the bus?
Does this indicate there is absolutely some pattern to Ms. Perkins actions

Ms. Perkins can't be concerned, it appears, with those those pesky copyright issues?

(I point out Ms. Perkins own words?)
(Quote)
"I have to admit I was not as extremely knowledgeable about copyright laws as I am now."
(Unquote)

There seems to be no detectable difference today distinguishing Ms. Perkins attitudes and respect
for another individuals property as being any different from that day Ms. Perkins STOLE the "Fairies"
making "Fairies" the designsbywinter "Original Creation" Ms. Perkins claimed them as
Ms. Perkins recent, continuing, behavior shows a pattern of taking what she wishes
eliminating all signs of the true owner
Then gifting/selling as Ms. Perkins pleases!
Accepting all credits rightfully due the real artist
because she can hack up a cut/paste chore most 6 year old children can manage to accomplish
Finally, processing it through a high priced (If she even LEGALLY bought it?), graphics program!

I don't give a rodents fine furry hind-quarter what is passed off as truth by Ms. Perkins at this point!

Don't trust her!
Never did!
Never will!
We don't talk at all!

For quite some time she has only been B%@##%Y in my direction every chance that was available to her
Hence why she was not privately contacted as the theft came to my attention!

Why should I have gone to her personally, and in secret, to "aid" Ms. Perkins with covering this incident of theft up?
I have no illusion she would afford me that courtesy!

The sad truth is that this is the rule, not the exception,
in regard to the reality of the relationships between many of the Program Owners!

Is there some rule that says anyone must work with their direct competition?
That nonsense sentiment gets bandied around a lot!
I suggest it is no ones obligation to cover-up, assist, or work with another

Any individual chooses to act on this "all for one" mentality ,,,?
That is commendable, but until that follows through to also paying my bills!

I believe I will go with the sensible approach of taking care of my own first!

Finding stolen copyrighted material on a new acquisition falls within the scope of that concept for me!
I assure you!
I am very irritated by this incident and not at all happy to have to deal with it!

To be brutally honest!
Anyone who says they would not feel the same way is a liar, in my opinion!

Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword!
You get what you give!
You reap what you sow!
Blah Blah Blah!

Ms. Perkins acts are not as innocent as she makes them appear!

As she has somewhat explained ...

There are costs to designing websites!

Subscriptions, image usage/purchase fees, software costs, etc ...

Wench muffins now has to cover all of those additional expenses to simply get back to square one!
Ms. Perkins theft of copyright material is the direct cause of this loss/expense

If Ms. Perkins, and Associate, had a "pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of"?
There would be attorney slobber all over their ass's at this very moment!

Equaling the high quality of a $500 plus logo which made Twisted Clickers what it was will not be easy, or cheap!

I'm sorry is not a valid currency, any place I know of to pay for this!

The fact Ms. Perkins also was able to point at such high quality/cost work?

This fact gave Ms. Perkins an extremely unfair advantage with regard to competition
Why wouldn't that competition be pissed?

Ms. Perkins has admitted she absolutely was cheating and built her "Business" on that fact!
Ms. Perkins was able to point at that high quality image
while her competition is pointing at cheap cartoon animations and image barn "Ho Hum, everyone has that one!" offerings!

She suggests she is being treated unfairly?

How much work did that triple digit image steal away from other designers who are NOT making these "innocent" mistakes?

The person/s damaged by this incident are much more wide ranging than the one individual
Ms. Perkins absolutely had to immediately "Smooze" to get her ass out of this jam!

Threatening, insulting, and acting as if catching Ms. Perkins is the terrible incident we should all concentrate
on is completely insulting, ignorant, and unfair to everyone else who plays within the rules!

Ms. Perkins stole!
Ms. Perkins was caught!
Stop whining about being caught!
Stop threatening and whining about who did the catching?
Fix the damn mess made by the "Innocent Mistake"!
Move on!

How would YOU feel if this were YOUR website?
http://www.twisted-clickers.net

In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel)
is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual
that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.
__________________________________
__________________________________

(Quote)
"Surfjunky"
"Looks like Bob's "researchers" only found out what they wanted to find out:

http://www.designsbywinter.info/proof/proof.html "
(Unquote)

What the "researchers" Found is that Winter Perkins, as well as yourself it appears,
obviously could use some assistance researching your facts, Sir!

This is the exact image Ms. Perkins claims to have so sorrowfully "borrowed"

http://www.alrioart.com/details.php?image_id=1314&mode=search&sessionid=fdb607c11f9194fdbdf9322d98bb559e

As you can see the colorization is copyrighted, ... Oh crap ..!

That would appear to mean that short hop Ms. Perkins is attempting to maneuver to extricate herself from this mess

SHE PUT HERSELF INTO

is by no means completed for Ms. Perkins,
(including the now ravaged present website owner of Twisted-Clickers?)
before the damage Ms. Perkins now has admitted to is even close to a closed chapter!

That is unless of course Ms. Perkins gets to pick and choose which victims she compensates for losses?

Anyone who wishes may cry, wail, beat their chest mightily claiming they are being picked on and treated unfairly

Facts remain, now admitted to by Ms. Perkins herself, that Ms. Perkins did absolutely take a copyrighted image

Call it her own

Continue to do so, claiming this image as her own, regardless of stating, in her own words,
she now knows better!

(Quote)
"I have to admit I was not as extremely knowledgeable about copyright laws as I am now"
(Unquote)

Ms. Perkins can call it spite, or some great plot, or misalignment of planets for all it matters!

Ms. Perkins kept that work up for all to see until caught red-handed!

If Ms.Perkins really is sincere about resolving this incident and making amends that has not been done!

That "Resolution cannot possibly be complete until all parties
including Wench Muffins
are fairly compensated, or for that matter even contacted about this matter!

I personally, am getting a little weary hearing Ms. Perkins, or anyone, blaming others for "Catching" her
being spat on, and ridiculed for it, as if everyone, except WINTER PERKINS IS THE GUILTY PARTY

What should be occurring is expressions of sincere appreciation and apologies, that are not back-hand insults
for the trouble Ms. Perkins thievery has caused us, specifically, and everyone else involved!

Since when did it become acceptable for the victims to be further victimized if the repentance is sincere?

I am honestly glad Ms. Perkins has had good fortune dealing with this issue so far
From where I am standing
I see no reason I should feel "personal" appreciation for anything she has done so far to make amends

No one from Wench Muffins has been contacted to inquire how we could be satisfied

Ms. Suellen can't feel good about how this has all turned out,
How can she feel knowing she , even unwittingly, has absolutely sold stolen property?
She likely hasn't been contacted

Seems the only ones who have been contacted, are Dave and the Queen, and the individual so far paid/compensated

What I hear now is the game being called early
Only one real winner being the person who caused this all to occur by the theft to begin with!

This incident was not some innocent "prank" with minor consequences for some of Ms. Perkins victims!

How would YOU feel if this were YOUR website?
http://www.twisted-clickers.net

I suggest until you can say you would feel good about that question
Or you can say being one of the victims would not distress you
This issue is not resolved!

For Clarification:

In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel)
is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual,
that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

__________________________________
__________________________________

No big bombshells to convey today for anyone keeping up on my "Rant" as it has been described!

I suppose anyone else in the same position would just take the screwing
remaining silent is how I define those bullshit responses!

Yeah
Sure they would
The whining would likely deafen us all, thankfully/hopefully, before it drove us to jump off something tall!

This blaring silence does bring up a very intriguing question!

I once made comments that Ms. Perkins is a hack, and there were some references to "Fugly" Blah Blah etc ...

Couldn't shut the B%$@# Up!

Yet here I sit "Alleging", "Implying", "questioning", ...
Do the facts prove she is a lying, copyright infringing thief?

Now doesn't it seem Queer that there is no proof offered to prove me a vicious, lying ass?

Work that is in question disappears from previous location on Ms. Perkins website immediately!
Not one public, indignant, blustery, nonsensical, threatening squeal venomously spit at me can be found!
Ms. Perkins, and associate, with friends, has been very busy behind the scenes
attempting to convince individuals none of this is true!

Hint?
Put the image/s back up in the portfolio, again claiming them as your own "Original Creations"!
This will lead me to put them back up at the website you sold them on!
The resulting legal response, or lack of it, will prove/disprove the innocence of Ms. Perkins?

Seems pretty simple, cut and dried, roll me up another one, to me!

Ms. Perkins?
Do you think you have Mr "Big T" conned well enough yet to pull this off?
I wish to make it clear, I realize, very well, that many don't wish to go near this issue because ...
Well we all know what that because is!

Some pretty "Big", and "Old time" players in this game have said to me....
"Everyone does it"!
Do I have a clue what I am "Ranting" against, and getting myself into here?

My only reply is!

"Everyone" doesn't place their "Little Indiscretions", into portfolios
claiming them to be some great and glorious Original Creations, to be sold commercially
Sent down the line as the ticking time-bomb of legal quicksand they are!

We are not talking some dumb-F$@# who buys "Mickey" and cries Boo Hoo here!
This image was very hard to find, way off the beaten path, and not cheap to purchase LEGALLY at all!
Hence ... Why Ms. Perkins stole the damn thing?

Exactly where do we draw the line on this bullshit?

One might consider this point though!

If you were me?
Would you want me to stand up and clearly say, "This is wrong", regardless of who you are?
Or, shall I assume by the lack of reaction/response,
(ignoring the very dumb-ass, obviously pissy-pants statements I am aware of having been childishly expressed)
you would prefer I treat you as you appear to be silently saying you deserve/expect?
Justly, fairly, etc ...
Regardless of the fact I don't happen to like you very much, or at all?

How would YOU feel if this were YOUR website?
http://www.twisted-clickers.net

Just for anyone who is interested!

In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel)
is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual,
that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

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Previous "Rant"?
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Winter Perkins recent IM Status Message

(Quote)
Try as you might,We are here to stay! Get over it :P!
(Unquote)

I have no clue if this message is meant for me Ms. Perkins is rotating on her IM which many people gleefully bring to me giggling with comments such as
ie ..."that's got maturity written all over it"!

Normally, I giggle agreeing that sentiment is so true, and i just move on with things like
ie ... FINDING A NEW IMAGE FOR THE WEBSITE RECENTLY PURCHASED BY WENCH MUFFINS WHICH WE HAD TO REMOVE THE IMAGE FROM
BECAUSE WINTER PERKINS,DBA/AKA DESIGNS BY WINTER SOLD STOLEN PROPERTY THAT WAS THE FACE OF
twisted-clickers.net

This stolen property, so as to be clear, was valued at, and north of, $500!

Sooo, all of you who thought that was the coolest damn original work you had ever seen MS. PERKINS do?

Well possibly this is true? Except for the part where, SHE DIDN'T F%$@@#% CREATE IT! SHE STOLE IT!

How about we just peer at this latest nonsense leaking from Ms. Perkins tiny little under-developed brain?

(Quote)
"Try as you might"
(Unquote)

That "blurp" of juvenile stupidity just sounds like a lot of "Na Na Na Na Boo Boo" to me!

Whom, exactly is trying, and trying what?

No one, EXCEPT Ms. Perkins,
(Caught actively passing off another individuals artwork as her own Original Creation)
has tried anything more than what all program owners claim to strive for!

Run their business/s successfully, while running the gauntlets of scams, cheaters, and whatever else comes our way.

This incident just reinforces how wary one needs to be when dealing with all aspects of this endeavor!

(Quote)
"We are here to stay"
(Unquote)

I think basically an "Oh hell! We best all nail our shit down as the marauding hordes of
thieves will carry off "stuff" if we take our eyes off of it!" just naturally fits here!

Too f%$@ bad for anyone naive' enough to trust Ms. Perkins & Associate I suppose!

Which leads me to back-pedal just a bit!

(Quote)
"We"
(Unquote)

Ms. Mandy Huber, has decided, it appears to condone this activity
unless of course I have missed any statements made by her to the contrary!

I'm suggesting allowing Ms. Perkins to speak for anyone BUT herself is a dangerous precedent to set
since she has proven she cannot be trusted to act with anything resembling integrity or honesty!

But possibly, it is just me that feels this way?

(Quote)
"Get over it :P!"
(Unquote)

OK!

I hear the chant again!

For any of you that don't hear it, it goes like this!

BGMcK! Shut the F%$@@#$ Up!

In what world is it we live where the individual doing the mugging has the sackage
to tell the victim to "Get over it :P!", and does anyone believe this is appropriate?

I know I am an arrogant, abrasive, all up in the face Irritatingly Adorable Prick!

But c'mon people?

Really?

"Get over it :P!"

I'll think about getting over it when you are gone Ms. Perkins, and until then ... ?
Well! I will leave you to figure out how that sentence possibly ends, Ma'am!

One final suggestion for Ms. Perkins!

You may wish to tweak that chant of mine just a bit, and adopt it as your own!

I'm gonna guess, telling me, or anyone else, who now faces the expense, aggravation, and general bullshit
of having to remove/replace your designs, because they now
know, suspect, or just don't want to take the chance
they too will get thrown under the bus also, just can't be all that happy with you already!

Doesn't seem all too "Bright Bulb" to further antagonize anyone with that
"F%$@# You All" I'm not sorry about anything but getting caught attitude you are tossing in everyone's face!

Just a thought!

Winter Perkins
DBA/AKA
DesignsByWinter
SeamlessWebSolutions
has stolen Intellectual Copyright Protected Material
Claiming this Property as her own "Original Creations"
On more than one occasion
Selling stolen, copyright protected property for commercial gain
This is strictly prohibited for 99% of all images NOT purchased from online image banks

The value of the property stolen does not total to a tiny. insignificant amount
I predict this is just the tip of what will become clear in the future when individuals who own a DesignsByWinter
mess get over the nightmares of future possible lawsuits and research what she has left them to deal with

Individuals cannot just take another individuals property and "Make it Their own"
This is what Winter Perkins AKA DesignsByWinter
And by association, her partner Mandy, have clearly done


Before I continue on I wish to thank everyone who spent many hours assisting and researching
what, at the time I suggested this, had to be so, had to seem insane, paranoid, and completely ludicrous!
Thank You!
You are all my secret powers!
Now shall we peer closely at Ms. Winter Perkins Kryptonite?


There was one minor incident, (as if theft is a minor incident) shown to occur between

This segment edited to meet the censor requirements , therefore, not naming the individuals involved
This condition had to be met so that this page could run without controversy
Anyone having an issue with this page may contact me to explore compromise
IM me personally at bgmck3@yahoo.com for complete transcript of all that has been edited from this page

(This is ironically what piqued my curiosity, causing me to research the origin of Ms. Perkins portfolio)
Original Copyrighted image


Ms. Perkins hack job of same:


Does anyone but me hear FUGLY?

Now I hope the recipients of this fine gift realize that such a gift is tainted by the removal
of the copyright without giving credit to the ORIGINAL CREATOR
Additionally, it is a serious No-No to PURCHASE such an item!

This segment edited to meet the censor requirements , therefore, not naming the individuals involved
This condition had to be met so that this page could run without controversy
Anyone having an issue with this page may contact me to explore compromise
IM me personally at bgmck3@yahoo.com for complete transcript of all that has been edited from this page

But of course the great watchdog and his noble mistress surely realize this!

For Ms. Perkins to profit from a commercial sale of this image ....
Well! Keep reading kiddies and you will see Ms. Perkins does not concern herself with such minor details!


Twisted Winter Nitwit?

My first reaction, even knowing it had to be so, which set me on the hunt, with the help of many tiny helper hands, was absolutely:
"What the hell could that foolish female have been thinking to commit this dumb-ass act of thievery?"

Then I considered the individual, Ms. Perkins.

Her history as a Hack Designer, that no one can fathom what the hell she has done to a website when they try to do the simplest tasks
on websites she has laid out, repeated so many times now, I have lost track of all who have said it

The nasty trail of the pumping, debt dumping Program Owner, filling up programs with Lifetime everything
Then tossing them off, usually seasoned with some "Po' Po' Winter" tales of hardship and woe to garner that pity and sympathy

Add the many other bright Bulb moves she has pulled
Flavored with the nonsense that leaks out of her tiny little mind
to dribble disgustingly from her pie hole

I was then able to quite easily come to grips with it all!
Winter Perkins has to think everyone else is an idiot, or Ms. Perkins has to be a complete idiot herself?
As for that business associate of Ms. Perkins?
Mandy's next moves will clearly display what she is all about!


THE FACTS

Let me begin by clearly stating that I
(AKA - Wench Muffins Network)
am none too happy with the turn of events surrounding the recent sale of
twisted-clickers.net

Both law enforcement, and legal counsel, have been consulted regarding this incident
Wench Muffins network is seriously considering all legal options available to remedy the situation
against any/all responsible parties pertaining to the sale of stolen property

Additionally The rightful owner/s have also been notified so they may take appropriate action regarding the theft of their property

All documentation
(ie .. screen-shots, financial transaction records, any/all public statements made, etc ...)
have been gathered for delivery to appropriate individuals/authorities
This includes any/all other property which may also prove a pattern of illegal activity by the individual/s involved


Muffinese Summation

It is obvious Ms. Perkins
AKA
designsbywinter.info
www.SeamlessWebSolutions.com
STOLE the images that were then repeatedly sold
leaving Wench Muffins screwed because we are too stupid to STEAL, or perpetuate that cycle

Was this done with the original owner, Jamie Dubois's consent?
Who the hell knows?
I surely don't F%$@3 care?

The Program Wench Muffins purchased from Ms. Suellen is now not worth a stinking dog-pile
It comes to Wench muffins with the possibility of future legal actions against me!
Sure didn't see this F$%@ coming when predicted Long ago this would be the sure bet sale to wager on!
Thanks a whole hell of a lot Suellen!!!
No friggin wonder you dumped it!
Jane absolutely owes you a big fat kiss now, it seems
for NOT selling/giving the evil creature the image she had a public tantrum over not receiving from you!
$5 friggin dollars?
Now what the hell should one think about this turn of events?
Well unless I believe Ms. Weird Suzy a fool, I suppose that strongly suggests she could not have had a clue of the image value!
I don't know who knew what, but I will relentlessly pursue this until I bury my teeth in every ass possible regarding this situation!

How are all those designsbywinter Hack Job, Cut/Paste, pieces of crap working out for everyone now?
No damn wonder when pressed for any details on the server killing crap churned out
all anyone ever got was babbled nonsense and mutterings!
She has no friggin clue about those images beyond Cut/Paste, run them through the magic Program!
The only ones who seem to possibly be able to answer any of those questions are the individuals she stole from!
Good luck with that as I am finding out that the desired gracious and giving attitude
appears to not be their first reaction when informed of the theft of their property!
No one has said to me in any part of this that my loss is theirs
They are not obligated to compensate Wench muffins for that loss!

I Know! Boo Hoo! BGMcK! Shut the F%$#$ up!

There is only one individual, absolutely, without a doubt, directly responsible for all losses!
I'm not going to hold my breath there will be any offers to make it right from Ms. Perkins until the attorney makes her say
"Uncle Bisquits"!
On the contrary!
I expect to be attacked, ridiculed, and blamed for this whole situation!

Are there any more thefts soon to be exposed?
Any who know me, know if there are, I will not let this go until I find them all!
(The rest of you )general/non-specific) using Henson's, Disney and/or any other damn copyrighted thing you want .... ?)
I suggest, only, that you don't put your digits anywhere near the angry business end of the Muffins!
There is a right way, and a wrong way to do things!
I have had it up to my friggin ass,
taking losses because of petty common thievery, pissy-ass attitudes, and creative debt control,
that lead individuals to steal from me, or anyone else for that matter, for any F%$@@%$ reason!
I wish all who own a Ms. Perkins the best of luck getting her stolen crap off their programs before those coming lawsuits arrive!
Those sleepless nights ahead, waiting for the rock to drop on you too ... !
You could always ask Ms. Perkins if she stole YOUR websites images also!
I am sure you can trust her to tell you the truth!
Can Ms. Perkins honestly think she is too slick to get caught
because Ms. Perkins stole your images from too obscure a place,
(such as Ms. Perkins obviously) thought about Twisted Clickers images?),
that they will never be found?
What other possible reason could Ms. Perkins have had that would possess her to have gone so far
as to list them as her own creations, in her portfolio, as her original work,
for all to see on her website hawking her very sub-par talents for hire?


How about?

I leave that question for you to decide?

NOTE - All Images, and/or References to them
previously identified as "Twisted Clickers"
displayed on Ms. Perkins website

(claimed by Ms. Perkins to be
Designs by Winter Original Creations)

have been removed from Ms. Perkins Design Portfolio.


DBA/AKA
designsbywinter
SeamlessWebSolutions

Who Is Domain Search Results

Administrative Contact:
Perkins, Winter
Winter Perkins 417 hirth avenue columbia, MO 65203
United States
+1.5732347212 Fax -- +1.5732347212

Stolen Original Image
http://www.alrioart.com/details.php?image_id=1314&mode=search&sessionid=fdb607c11f9194fdbdf9322d98bb559e

Website stolen image was located
twisted-clickers.net

Link added for clarification of property value with coloration of image increasing property value
http://alrioart.com/details.php?image_id=1300

In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel)
is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual,
that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.


All screen-shots, documents, financial record, etc ... (as appropriate)
are available to anyone who wishes to request them which prove all claims made
Updated/Edited Tuesday July 24, 2008 2:00 AM EST